Council prayer ban a sign of 'intolerance'

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A rector has lamented the fact that he may be among the last to lead prayers at council meetings, after a court ruling.

The Reverend Rodrick Withnell spoke of an "increasingly intolerant" society before saying prayers at Devon County Council's budget meeting yesterday. Prayers were listed as an agenda item, but council chairman Jeremy Yabsley clarified that they would be held outside of official business and invited anyone who wanted to leave to step out. Everybody stayed.

Mr Yabsley said he has asked officers to report back to the next council meeting on the impact of a High Court judge's ruling that Bideford Town Council may not include prayers as part of the agenda.

Yesterday, Mr Withnell told the meeting the invitation to lead prayers had seemed "straightforward" when he received it six weeks ago. But he said he had approached it with "apprehension" in light of the ruling. "I feel I may find myself among the last clergy to be invited to lead occasions like this up and down the country," he said. He said Britain had a "long tradition" for tolerance and freedom of speech, but felt those principles were being "undermined".

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  • Profile image for The_Real_SKoM

    by The_Real_SKoM

    Monday, February 20 2012, 7:08PM

    “milesnagop
    In a nutshell, that's exactly the point.
    Well put.”

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    by accom

    Monday, February 20 2012, 2:46PM

    “I'm not saying that everyone who is right-wing is intolerant, but - big difference - everyone who is intolerant is right-wing.”

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    by ivanovski

    Monday, February 20 2012, 1:18PM

    “Accom must have been living on a different planet to the one I am used to. In my experience " intolerant to anyone to is slightly different from themselves" is not a monopoly of any one labelled as "right wing" ( a very flexible piece of labeling ) There is nothing like someone of the "liberal left" persuasion for condemning anyone who does not sign up to their ideology. Ask anyone who is not of the left and has tried working for the BBC”

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    by exebomb

    Monday, February 20 2012, 10:49AM

    “what a load of tripe, the fact that these prayers were even held was show of intolerance, surly the most tolerance thing to do is not have any prayers!!
    Mr Withnell is backwards and has double standards - the fact that no one went out to pray in the other meeting shows just how backwards praying during council meetitngs really is especially when they are meant to be helping the whole community and they start by putting thier christian views above any others not a good way to start a meeting with "tolerant" views Mr Withnell”

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    by Sinjis_Things

    Sunday, February 19 2012, 4:00PM

    “If the Reverend Rodrick Withnell had actually bothered to read the news he would know that prayers have not been banned but made optional. If he were a good Christian he would be tolerant of the fact the some councillors will not want to take part in prayers before a meeting. Maybe he should practice what he preaches!”

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    by milesnagop

    Sunday, February 19 2012, 7:56AM

    “Sigh ... PRAYERS HAVEN'T BEEN BANNED AT COUNCIL MEETINGS.

    Mr Justice Ouseley ruled that councils didn't have the power to order *formal* prayer meetings. He also went on to state that prayers could be said as long as councillors were not formally summoned to attend.

    This is key. Prior to this ruling, if you weren't Christian you were being ordered to attend a prayer meeting and pray to a god in which you didn't believe and that isn't right. There's a lot of talk about Christians rights to pray. They're rights haven't been restricted, they can attend informal prayers before the meeting if they so wish. The ruling merely states that they're not allowed to force non-Christian council members to pray with them. This seems completely reasonable to me. How would a Christian feel if he were forced to pray to, say, Allah?”

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    by SlobberDan

    Saturday, February 18 2012, 8:43PM

    “Throw abuse at people and then hide behind out dated cliches, sounds like the left.”

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    by accom

    Saturday, February 18 2012, 7:36PM

    “"Bigot" and "racist" means, to a simplified level, that the person is intolerant to anyone who is slightly different from themselves. Both "sides" (left/right) have their weaknesses, but I would say intolerance of other classes/nationalities etc. is exclusively a right-wing trend, so that is why the words "bigot" and "racist" are used to descibe these people.”

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    by Jerryjones

    Saturday, February 18 2012, 2:46PM

    “"Bigot" and "racist"...That reminds me, where is omni..”

  • Profile image for SlobberDan

    by SlobberDan

    Saturday, February 18 2012, 11:49AM

    “Bigot and Racist are words the liberal left like to throw around at anyone who doesn't agree with them.”

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