Funding changes will 'decimate' abuse service

“It's interesting Samantha how much drivel gets regurgitated by drama queens such as yourself. 1 in 3 women are abused are they? The usual quote is 1 in 4, nothing like a bit of drama though is there? But 1 in 4 really, what drivel, utter tosh. That quote was actually modified to mean 1 in 4 in their lifetime. Suddenly those numbers are getting a little smaller now aren't they? Lets look closer. 75% of women NEVER suffer any abuse right? But if you ever took the trouble to examine what else the Home Office claimed, it said 10% of all women experience domestic violence every year. A whopping 40% of that 25% who supposedly suffer domestic violence. Let me explain that in simple math.
Imagine that there are 100 women in the entire population. According to the Home Office, 75 of them never experience domestic violence throughout their entire lives. So, let's forget about them.
25 of them do experience some domestic violence in their lives.
But, according to the Home Office again, 10 women out of the original 100 women will experience domestic violence. EVERY YEAR!
But these 10 women must come out of the 25 women who have experienced domestic violence at some stage in their lives.
None of these allegedly-violated women can be from the group of 75 women who have never experienced domestic violence.
And so it must be the case that it is the SAME women allegedly experiencing domestic violence - year after year after year after year.
And this implies that, being the common denominator - year after year after year after year - these women are actually either provoking whatever it is that they claim is actually happening to them. Or they are inveterate liars. Or the DV organizations inflate the figures - you decide.
2 women die each week due to domestic violence? Well, partly true, 2002 Home Office statistics stated 120 for that year and didn't split the male/female ratio, 25% of deaths due to domestic violence are men - on average.
Why couldn't these organizations co-operate together? A quote from Sandra Horley "Refuges for women are struggling to survive, and if we put
across this idea that the abuse of men is as great as the abuse of women, then it could seriously affect our funding".
Hmmm, so why do so many have pension plans? Well paid jobs? Lovely offices and never forget the jolly jaunts. The truth is, the DV industry (and I use the term correctly) is vastly over funded, doesn't achieve (with few exceptions) what it claims, exists only to perpetuate victimhood, despite what you say does NOT support men escaping violent relationships (just check out their websites, nothing there suggests any support for men) and exists only to further lies and myths to gain more funding.

To you Lisa. You are absolutely right, DV is a crime and Edith is absolutely correct, the police have the powers to deal with it. Sorry to say, anyone, man or woman, that remains in a violent relationship is 50% responsible for remaining in that relationship. It may sound harsh, but it is nothing less than the truth.”

“well said samantha,
dont think theres much more to say about this subject and thank god there are organizations out there that are very much needed!!!”

“Trevor, domestic violence is abuse!!!! it is the same, infact emotional abuse, financial abuse and sexual abuse is very dangerous just as much as physical!!!
these 3 organisations couldn't possibly come to gether to and support all, coverin west devon, teignbridge, south hams, all of north devon and exeter it would be too much and service users will not be support in a safe enough way and someone will slip through and DIE! and I don't see these women as you put it as victims I think of them as survivors! when you say can we not help people who are addicted to violence you can only help those that wish to be helped, like an alcoholic won't let someone else take their alcohol off them and stop them drinking they have to want to do it! and men and women who are violent and controlling are infact very good at what they are doing and don't see they have a problem and don't look for help!”

“here here Lisa!!! I do feel for their family members if they are abused and as I said before 1 in 3 are so no doubt one of them is going through it, man or woman!!! the fact is if they lose this suppport someone is going to die!!! there have been many cases in the newspaper when a partner has shot them or some innocent by stander has got shot, or a police officer has been stabbed, this could be avoided if these services can carry on supporting service users and helping take the right steps SAFELY to leave their partner!!!”

“Edith you clearly have no knowledge of domestic violence, it takes a woman 35 attempts to leave before she does, 1 in 3 women are abused, (could be you one day) 2 women a week are being killed, and these women have tried to leave infact the most dangerous time is when someone leaves! when you have been run into the ground, controlled to the point you don't know how to function alone, been told i'll find you and kill you, or you'll never be without me EVER how easy do you think it is to leave!!! Trever, domestic violence and abuse service support men as well as women but based on statistics women are more affected, now this could mean because not alot of men come forward but I don't think you should call these people feminists when they clearly support all kinds of abuse to all sex, religions, sexualities. they also support children who experience it in their homes and help them before they learn the behaviour and go on to abuse them selves. I am sure they would love to be out of a job because there is no domestic abuse in the world, not because they are being cut off from helping inocent vulnerable people, if you don't have any knowledge of domestic abuse you can't comment on how easy it is to live with or leave!!!”

“Edith and trevor i think you both deserve each other! god help if anyone in your family/friend go through domestic violence/abuse ( they might will leave them to it as it cost taxpayers to much money). these sort of crimes do end up in death but hey ho lets not worry about that. DV/ABUSE IS NO MATTER WHAT YOU GUYS SAY A CRIME!!!”

“Actually anon @ 21.58, Edith has nailed it and you have failed.
You are linking domestic abuse with domestic violence making them one and the same. Does anyone really believe shouting is domestic violence? Not in the real world anyway.
Does Devon really need three organizations to deal with domestic violence (as opposed to abuse)? No, not really. The three organizations could merge and cut costs that way. These organizations have been overfunded in the past and even with the cuts, probably still are. They promote hate between the sexes, a quote from Womens Aid " The majority of domestic violence as defined above is perpetrated by men and experienced by women." Rubbish, at least that's what the Scottish Government found and many research groups have also found.
If these groups cannot actually help people addicted to violence (and there are as many women who are violent as there are men) and can only promote old feminist myths projecting women as victims, then if they disappear it would be no bad thing.
Divorce is made easy, weighted heavily in favour of women and the police are there to remove the violent partner and courts to give protection orders. So anon, Edith's advice has far more sense than yours.”

“hear hear anon!!
well done for speaking up for the innocent victims of DV, Edith maybe you should be attacking the perpetrators of DV as they are the reason for these services needed.
maybe its about time the perpetrators are given more community service on top of there convictions!!!! to bring back money into the taxpayers system.”

“Yeah it's a tough world anon but that doesn't mean the taxpayer has to always pick up the bill, how naive are some people.”

“Edith, you clearly have no understanding of domestic abuse as if you did you would know that just leaving does not always solve the problem instantly. What about the abuser trying to find the victim and how is she/he going to be protected?.
It is still quite sad how naive some people still are about these situations!.”