'Let's knock down the Apollo'

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A NEW masterplan for Paignton suggests bulldozing the Apollo Cinema.

The aim would be to re-open sea views from Torbay Road which were cut off when the former Festival Theatre was built in the 1960s.

The cinema would be relocated elsewhere in the town.

A new planning brief, taking a fresh look at sites as far apart as the harbour and Crossways, will go before councillors for the first time at a cabinet meeting on Tuesday.

It is designed to ease the path of regeneration proposals including in the Mayoral Vision and Community Plan to revitalise Paignton as 'a town of high quality developments within a strong green setting and good linkages to the centre, sea and harbour'.

The report to cabinet says the pedestrianisation of Torbay Road could be investigated together with restoration of the view out to sea and the creation of iconic public art.

It goes on: "This could establish Torbay Road as an important area for strolling, eating, shopping and bustle. While on a smaller scale than Barcelona, there would be potential to create a 'Las Ramblas' feel to the area," says the report referring to a popular tourist area in the Spanish city.

Redevelopment of the cinema site has already been raised in the Mayoral Vision, and it is also acknowledged that the historic Torbay Cinema should be protected and used.

A spokesman for Apollo Cinemas said they were unable to comment on the proposal at this stage.

The report says Paignton has suffered from both the recession and the impact of out-of-town shopping.

The brief aims to boost the town's prosperity by providing facilities such as shopping, leisure and new homes within the town centre and 'knitting together' development opportunities.

The report says it aims to 'create a vibrant town centre which generates pride and engagement, a new public realm with amenities that match the Bay's world class natural beauty, whilst promoting pleasure, wholesome holiday fun and all year round entertainment'.

One of the visions is to re-establish the formerly distinctive grid pattern, improving existing green space and creating plazas and parks as places to stroll, shop, eat outside and hold markets and other events.

There has been public consultation on the proposals through a targeted email to organisations and individuals with an interest in Paignton, including the community partnerships, which went out in January.

There was also a front page item on the council website and on its consultation website.

A council spokesman said there was not a full statutory planning consultation, as the brief looks at implementing policies in the current Torbay Local Plan.

There will be a full public consultation when more detailed proposals come forward, through the new Local Development Framework, in the autumn.

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    by Doris, Paignton

    Friday, March 26 2010, 1:36PM

    “The cinema is an eyesore. But is could be rebuilt when they knock down Crossways which is an evewn bigger eyesore. There is nothing nice to look at in Paignton at all except the seafront and green, ergo this vision is correct. I am amazed and disappointed that fellow Paignton residents are so short sighted in theri reactions to this plan. The whole town is in serious need of redevelopment and regeneration - this means even more companies like those providing jobs and fabulous leisure activities at The Flagship, Wacky Warehouse and the Apollo will be attracted to the town.
    The Bay needs these companies who have financial backing and knowledge and the facilities to drive more people to use the Bay - the reason we are in the mess we are in is because not enough has been done to attract these businesses!Look at Plymouth and Exeter - new developments, new redevelopment (Exeter Quays, Barbican Plymouth, Drakes Circus and Princesshay - where was Torbay in all of that?5plus years behind.

    Come on ,Paignton People - move onward and upward - nobody is taking your cinema away - they are giving you a new one and lots more better places too!”

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    by Rob Arthur, Apollo Cinemas

    Saturday, March 20 2010, 8:49AM

    “I've been reading all of the feedback and comments which are really helpful. Thank you.

    Apollo have recently signed a deal with Sony Technology to install their digital 4k projectors in all screens. These are the most advanced cinema projectors available.

    In addition, the cinema will have five 3D enabled screens (more than any other UK cinema). This work is due to be completed in time for the Easter holiday break and is part of a long term commitment to invest in this cinema.

    We will also be installing a satellite receiver prior to summer to ensure that when live and 3D live events take place e.g. opera, football and music we will be hosting them at this cinema.

    The £2 million earmarked for the Apollo in Paignton is the biggest single investment that Apollo has ever undertook and is the start of further enhancements.

    Apollo have a long term committment to the Torbay area and we will keep you up to date with any developments that take place.”

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    by Stan, Torbay

    Thursday, March 18 2010, 9:42PM

    “Yep I'm all in favour of us all doing our bit but the council must also carry out their responsibilities., paint/repair the railings, mend the crumbling concrete etc.
    Someone must be responsible for under the Shoreline and the "tunnel" under the pier. All in need of urgent attention.”

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    by Shaun, Torquay

    Thursday, March 18 2010, 9:42PM

    “I can see the general opinion on the whole plan is very negative so will the councilors listen? I hope so or there will be a lot of angry people to deal with aswell as the repercussions of a mistake that they will surely regret. I don't mean to be rude but there's is no advantage to seeing the sea from the trainstation, how much money will they generate? None I'm guessing. I don't mean to be rude but I think we should stop becoming victims of old people's pointless gripes which are nothing but trouble. Things such as this should be presented for opposition from the rest of the public before they start making plans for it. I certainly don't want to see the establishment to go for a minorities pointless gripe, if they want to see the see they should move closer to it or move away from Paignton.”

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    by Woodpecker, Paignton

    Thursday, March 18 2010, 7:21PM

    “What about a residents grotbuster team wth volunteers to do some grot busting? Everyone could do something. Be constructive thats all it takes.”

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    by Stan, Torbay

    Thursday, March 18 2010, 5:21PM

    “Woodpecker has given me an idea. Let US compile a list of all the maintainance, cleaning etc that needs doing area by area and present it to the council as a demand. The peoples grotbuster campaign!
    Anyone want to start a facebook site?

    If they spent more time and our money on doing what needs to be done rather than silly reports like this then the Bay would be a better place for everyone.
    Let's face it all these buildings are owned by many different organisations so what realistic chance is there to get them to knock this down and move that there? As proved by Crossways the council have no powers to realise any of this.”

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    by Luke, Paignton

    Thursday, March 18 2010, 4:51PM

    “Soon the only thing generating money in Paignton will be the hundreds of car-park zones and traffic wardens.

    The council can then use those profits to knock down anything else that generates interest and profit in the bay.

    Lots of people seem rather fond of this beach thingy- but it might obstruct their view of the sea. I suggest we level it and turn it into another car park.

    Torbay Council have demonstrated their narrow-minded idiocy yet again. Knocking down something that generates a healthy amount of business in order to build something that will generate the same amount of business in several years' time is absurd. Put simply, it's a farce.”

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    by Rebecca, Paignton

    Thursday, March 18 2010, 4:40PM

    “It's completely pointless for the council to spend its funds knocking down 3 buildings, destroying 3 very popular, competent businesses that generate a lot of money for Paignton. The current economic climate means that the population of Torbay need employment from large, stable businesses such as the Flagship, the Apollo cinema and Shoreline restaurant.

    The Flagship's wacky warehouse is an extremely popular facility, with many tourists staying in the hotels surrounding the cinema eating out in the restaurant and taking their children there to play. People don't want to have to travel to Torquay to the Rainbow funhouse specifically to take their children to a funhouse. They go to the Flagship's because of its proximity to their houses or hotels.

    Yes, Paignton needs attention, especially since Woolworths and Rossiters left. The biggest buildings at the front of the town are empty and Crossways shopping centre is the same. The town needs renovation, particularly in Crossways, and the council need to attract big businesses that aren't pound shops to the area.

    At this time, money is important and should be used with more caution. Money should be invested in infrastructure: improving travel (the railway station and the buses) rebuilding the town's empty shops, reducing parking costs and offering subsidies to big businesses to attract them to the town, instead of knocking down some of the few businesses that generate employment, taxes, tourist attraction and revenue for the town.

    The cinema only takes up a small portion of the seafront and really doesn't affect the view, if anything, it enhances it with the sundeck of the Flagship and the Shoreline restaurant's views.”

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    by Sarah, Torquay

    Thursday, March 18 2010, 4:25PM

    “If it goes, it would be just another reason to go to Exeter or Plymouth!”

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    by Woodpecker, Paignton

    Thursday, March 18 2010, 3:49PM

    “Good idea from Mark, Torquay. Put an outside ice rink there instead of the cinema (would get good use next to the new play park, put the cinema at Crossways OR move the train station the other side of the crossing and put the cinema next to the new Paignton Library combining the old building as well. But then everyone would complain about this. If all the people who moaned about progession in this place got together, then they could come up with some ideas if they think they would do the job better. Bit like a Mayoral Group. We could then see how far that gets them. Not very far I would say as there would no doubt be other whinge bags waiting in the wings. The Apollo needs a darn good lick of paint and clean up. Underneath of the Shoreline Restaurant looks a sight and more like a no-go area you wouldn't walk at night. And whilst commented, cpuld someone sort the railings out at Goodrington as they look absolutely terrible. They are rusting, paintwork is missing and also grids on the bottom sections.”

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