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Friday, April 27, 2012
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THOUSANDS of pounds of unpaid rent owed to Torbay Council by the operators of the Hi-Flyer balloon will be written off, it has been revealed.

The information came to light at a part-private meeting of the overview and scrutiny committee at which a call for an investigation into the rent dispute was defeated.

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Chairman of the committee Cllr John Thomas used his casting vote to defeat the motion proposed by Lib-Dem councillor Steve Darling.

The exact amount of money being written off by the council is not known but it is understood an element of the £50,000 owed is already being discounted by council finance officers.

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The balloon itself has not been operational since January when it was destroyed by high winds.

It then emerged after a Freedom of Information request by two members of the public that the balloon operator Lindstrand had not paid the council rent for the past three years.

A legal dispute between the council and operator about the lease is ongoing.

The nature of the dispute has not yet been made public.

But Cllr Darling told the meeting it was now time for an investigation into why councillors had been kept in the dark for so long about the rent issue.

"We're trying to hold the council to account," he said.

"Why didn't we know about all the issues and why did it take an FOI to come out?"

Cllr Darren Cowell said he was not calling for a witch-hunt or seeking to blame anyone for decisions made.

"But we need to have an inquiry.

"We need to identify what happened and when and who knows about it and the fallout in terms of the cost and liabilities."

A vote on whether an executive at the council who had not been involved in the process should undertake an investigation was defeated by the casting vote.

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  • Profile image for grumpy02

    by grumpy02

    Saturday, August 25 2012, 7:13PM

    “Surely if anyone at the council had any brains alarm bells should have started ringing after one year.”

  • Profile image for HughFarquhar

    by HughFarquhar

    Saturday, April 28 2012, 6:18PM

    “er no Miles, hard as they may seem, I was actually agreeing with you, I won't let it happen again. (I'm not the type who says nothing).”

  • Profile image for milesnagop

    by milesnagop

    Saturday, April 28 2012, 5:19PM

    “@HughFarquhar

    So because it's wrong you say nothing and let it remain that way? It seems to me that that's why Torbay is the way it is, because people do nothing.”

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    by BuzzingBasil

    Saturday, April 28 2012, 4:44PM

    “I've just got a summons for not paying £130 of council Tax , 20 days after it was due - can I assume that will be written off now?”

  • Profile image for HughFarquhar

    by HughFarquhar

    Saturday, April 28 2012, 1:38PM

    “Milesnagop - 'If the Herald was any kind of local newspaper ... it would be investigating and not just reporting'. Oh come on Miles, cats keep getting stuck up trees and Colleen Smith is chit chatting over the garden wall, you actually want worthwhile news, they haven't got the time. Also 'if the council were any kind of council' and 'if the police were any kind of police' might just as well apply.”

  • Profile image for milesnagop

    by milesnagop

    Saturday, April 28 2012, 12:09PM

    “After a bit of digging around I found this page, http://tinyurl.com/cge5pxu , detailing the minutes of the Overview and Scrutiny Board of Torbay Council. There is little, if any, useful information about either why back rent was allowed to build, why the rent has been written off or why no inquiry was thought necessary. Interestingly, both press and public were formally excluded when this matter was discussed, the minutes cite "the likely disclosure of exempt information as defined in paragraphs 3 and 5 of Part 1 of Schedule 12A of the Local Government Act 1972". This would appear to be Data Protection Act related. Paras 3 & 5 refer to "Information relating to any past, present or potential tenant or occupier of Council accommodation, or applicant" and "Information relating to any person applying for, receiving or previously in receipt of
    financial assistance from the Council" respectively.

    Read that how you will but the public is due a better explanation than appears to be forthcoming from anyone. I'm sorry but it's not good enough.”

  • Profile image for milesnagop

    by milesnagop

    Friday, April 27 2012, 5:47PM

    “If that amount of money is being written off, especially in the current economic climate, the council owes its voters an explanation of why. If an enquiry isn't being held into why, the public again is owed an explanation as to why. If a councillor has voted against an enquiry or for the debt being written off, once again, that councillor owes his voting public an explanation as to why. If none of these explanations are forthcoming, the council owes the people of Torbay an explanation as to why not.

    If the Herald Express was any kind of local newspaper it wouldn't just be reporting the facts, it would be doing its job, investigating the matter fully and reporting what it found in these pages.

    If none of these things happen the matter will slide and the authorities responsible will feel just fine doing it again.

    This is not the Councils's money to throw around, it's yours and mine.

    It would be nice, lfor once, if someone from the Council joined this discussion.”

  • Profile image for maninmuffti

    by maninmuffti

    Friday, April 27 2012, 3:29PM

    “i thought it was good , extra entertainment for visitors , but i know a lot who objected you know the usual crowd retired living on comfortable pensions, but thats torbay”

  • Profile image for Chunder123

    by Chunder123

    Friday, April 27 2012, 3:16PM

    “I suspected this attraction would not last very long. It was good while it lasted but anybody could tell it was only a temporary thing. I think thats actually cool. It better for things to be temporary than for ever. you just get fed up doing the same old thing anyhow”

  • Profile image for HughFarquhar

    by HughFarquhar

    Friday, April 27 2012, 11:46AM

    “Nothing, we live in a liberal democracy and elect representatives with around a 40% max turn out based on the lies they have told us before the election (or the written pledges they have signed). No wonder some third world countries are fighting against democracy. It's not all it's cracked up to be.

    But until someone comes up with a better idea it's all we have.”

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        Should there be an inquiry into the rent dispute over Torquay's seafront balloon? A total of £50,000 of rent has not been paid to the council but the overview and scrutiny committee has voted against holding an inquiry.

         

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