Row brewing as council takes official line at vigil
CANDLELIGHT climate change protestors were forced to have an embarrassing whip round to pay for public liability insurance after they were barred from a public square in Totnes without the cover.
Now a row is brewing over why South Hams Council demanded the campaigners shelled out more than £100 for the insurance cover before allowing them to join thousands of other candlelit vigils for climate change action from the Copenhagen Summit.
Totnes district councillor Anne Ward: "This was a climate change vigil. Come on. This is a public space and people need to be able to express themselves publicly. It's part of the culture in Totnes, part of town life and it's been going on for donkey's years."
Meanwhile, Thalia Vitali, who helped organise the Totnes candlelit vigil, said she had been warned by the district council that she would not be allowed to hold the event in the Market Square without public liability insurance.
"I had to cough up £106," she said, although the organisers managed to raise £70 by asking for donations towards the expense.
Thalia added: "Normally that is not a thing that is done. One or two members were not happy that we were asking for money. I felt very uncomfortable and had to go to great lengths to explain why this had happened."
A council spokesman explained: "The council's public liability insurance does not cover other people holding events on council land. It is purely for council-organised events.
"It is a requirement that any person or organisation using our land for an event should hold public liability insurance to indemnify themselves again a member of the public making a claim against them as organisers of the event.
"We have a duty to ensure the safety of the public and it would be irresponsible of the council to allow uninsured events to go ahead."
The vigil at Totnes was organised to coincide with some 2,900 similar events being held across 139 countries to put pressure on world leaders to come up with climate change action at the Copenhagen Summit.
Around 50 protestors showed up at the Market Square on Saturday.
Thalia added: "The council stipulated that we would not get permission unless we had public liability insurance. I had to arrange it myself and send the paperwork to the council. Other council members were outraged and furious about this."
Ms Ward said she was currently trying to get some sort of council 'protocol' sorted out over the use of the Totnes square for public events following complaints this summer that women peace protestors marking Hiroshima Day were harassed by a council enforcement officer over peace mandala chalkings it was claimed were graffiti.
Speaking about the climate change vigil, she said: "Climate change is one of the most serious things which we have got to deal with. It's a big, big problem.
"We should be encouraging more people to express themselves in public and people should have the freedom to be able to do it."
Despite the problems over insurance, the vigil was hailed a success as Eileen Noakes, a well known environmental and peace activist, and a member of online campaign network Avaaz.org, said: "We need a deal that is ambitious enough to leave a planet safe for us all."
A similar vigil in the village of Blackawton attracted around 50 people.
"We are proud to see Blackawton playing its part in this global event on this crucial issue," said Ruth Coe, landlady at George pub, Blackawton, which donated mulled wine to the vigil.













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by Tony, Torquay
Wednesday, December 16 2009, 12:26PM
“I wish Mark of torbay would become extinct!
(lol, didn't mean it)”
by Cynic, Torbay
Wednesday, December 16 2009, 11:37AM
“Sorry, but this is typical of the so-called middle class green movement. They all drive in to Totnes in their 4x4's, with their banners made from wood and paper, burning candles made from petrochemical byproducts before driving a further 20 miles out of their way to stop off at an organic farm to buy organic produce grown in polytunnels (made of vast sheets of plastic).... At least they FEEL as though they are doing the right thing, even if they aren't.
The planet has had to put up with far worse than mankind - I think there have been 5 major extinction events, and one of them (before the dinosaurs) wiped out pretty much all life on earth. We can't blame Jeremy Clarkson for that one...”
by mark, torbay
Tuesday, December 15 2009, 11:27PM
“i can't wait for space & sky elevators to arrive. In the future we could have an entire city in the sky. Human poulation is expanding and it makes sense to think higher. Just look at skyscrapers now and think what a thousand years will be. I had this dream that i was on this planet that was like earth but everything in cities was like 100 times the size of our planet. There could be somewhere in the universe at this very moment like us but hundreds of time larger. It's not true what they say, we don't know that earth is the only planet in the universe that has life. The fact is we don't know yet they always say as far as we know earth is the only planet that has life, the fact is we do not know.”
by mark, uk
Tuesday, December 15 2009, 11:22PM
“there is no point worrying about climate change or its effects. The worst that can happen is human beings will become extinct. Other species became extinct which were far superior to us and human beings are noting special. Enjoy life and don't let the mind controlled masses worry you. Look how big space & the universe is so there is always ambition and in the future we will be able to live in space if need be so don't worry about it. We will have entire cities in space in the future connected from the iss”
by mark, uk
Tuesday, December 15 2009, 11:16PM
“Our language has even been corrupted with definitions that are used to fool people into turning against one another. What kind of language would have so much hatred in built into it i ask you. Why did we include so much negativity in languages.”