Tesco Brixham
There are a few reasons why I and my family are totally against a big Tesco to build in the central part of Brixham.
1) Where we used to live before moving to Brixham 10 years ago, Tesco moved into the small town, which was about the size of Brixham. Within 2 years, we lost 2 independent bakers, 3 independent greengrocers, 4 independent butchers, an independent florist, several small newsagents, a clothing outlet, 3 smaller supermarkets including Co-op and what was a thriving Saturday market, plus a few other shops. It is now a town mainly full of restaraunts, charity shops, Tesco, coffee shops, Aldi, hairdressers and offices. That town also has the added advantage of being just a few miles outside of Bristol and in comparison to Torbay has a low unemployment status. As well as being within easy reach of Bristol, Gloucester, South Wales and Bath it is also near Filton where Rolls Royce and BAC are situated and has good rail links to those who want to commute further afield
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2) Parking. Where will people who come to town park during the 1- 2years (or thereabouts) of building? There are times already some parking is lost in the centre of town because of coaches being re-directed there or the funfair. Already in the high season it is almost impossible to find a parking space in town, and can take anything up to half an hour to leave the car park. I had a heated discussion with a man in what was Spenderwise at the top of Fore Street, he kept telling me we could use Freshwater/Oxen cove or Breakwater. I told him that in the holiday season they were always full (he said they weren't, obvisouly does not know the town and/or doesn't drive!) He also said we could use the multi storey Marina. I don't know how many times I told him that vans that are wheelchair accessible are too high to use multi storey car parks, he just could not grasp it. I also tried several times to tell him that walking to the other carparks he mentioned pushing a wheelchair and carrying shopping is an impossibility, and what about those dosabled people who can walk a short distance but not as far as those carparks?
3) Disabled parking. There are several care homes and independent disabled people who are in Brixham or who come to Brixham. A lot of wheelchair accessible vehicles are over 6 foot high, some over 7. Not because of wanting them that high, but because of necessity. Broadsands Beach and Sharkham Point are already enforced out of bounds areas for them, so that will now make Brixham out of bounds too. Tall vehicles like this are not able to use underground or multi story car parks. We can't park on Bolton street, all streets near the town or harbour because the streets are too narrow and have yellow lines painted on the kerbs as well as the roads
4) I agree Brixham does need something to boost economy and trade, but all that will happen with Tesco as it has happened in so many places is that local traders will be forced to close unable to compete
5) Employment. Jobs will not be created for local people, Tesco will "import" some people from other stores to get up and running then those jobs that are created will be a higher percentage of low paid casual and/or part time workers. When the local traders close, that will then create more unemployment in the area.
6) A lot of people move to Brixham or holiday to Brixham because it is quaint, of the individuality, and quietness. So did we, We are employers in the town, and if Tesco comes there will be 5 jobs lost here
7) We put in planning permission several years ago for a garage but were made to remake the roof design as just 1 person complained that it would be out of keeping with the local area. It would have matched the rest of the house already standing, yet the plans for Tesco in the middle of the town would be far worse than the roundhouse on the fish market, totally out of character with the town
8) Thousands of local people are against this project, and know it will not benefit Brixham. We already have a small Tesco in town, that is enough for us. It would be better if that Tesco stocked different items to the Co-ops, Spars and Costcutters in the area. Tesco has also been voted as the worst supermarket in the Country by Which?
Regards
Elizabeth




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by mig46
Monday, April 29 2013, 7:22PM
“Reading the comments, I wonder how many of the shops in Brixham are up for sale, this is nothing to do with Tesco the store is not even here.The footfall for the town is the same it's just people are not spending, we still have to buy our weekly shopping and a Tesco in Brixham will save us having to go into Torquay or Paignton. As a town we need to move forward or it will die and when the coaches stop coming what then,it will be mainly the over 65 nipping on the bus to buy there loaf of bread and pint of milk.I feel the new store and the little shops will bring people in, also there will be more parking.Only time will tell on this one,but something has to be done and soon.”
by tracytopham
Saturday, March 16 2013, 12:45AM
“Excellently put Elliot6844. I have spent the past 20 minutes reading the comments on this page and I have to say that I agree with the person with spina bifada, 'keepgoing'.This woman pyeth really does think it's all about her; she is nothing other than a serial whinger. She wants the whole town, it's car parks and plans for the town's future regeneration changed to her liking because she is one of about half a dozen people in town who have a vehicle that can accommodate a wheelchair resulting in part of ONE car park in town that may be inaccessible to her. She knew what Brixham was like before she came so if she now doesn't like then I suggest that she clears off somewhere else and leave the rest of us who care properly about Brixham to concentrate on preventing this town sinking into decline.”
by Elliot6844
Friday, March 15 2013, 1:23PM
“I am quite staggered at the inability of the Brixham collective to see past their own biases and hackneyed views. Anything proposed that may enhance the quality of Brixham, i.e. the Old Market House, the Fish Market etc, is met with the usual narrow minded and ill-informed disdain. Looking at the literally overnight success of both the new fish market and market house it's difficult to perceive how the town would have benefited from the vaunted status-quo of the nay sayers. What would they propose? Is shoddy and stuck in the 70s really the image Brixham wants to promote? How appealing does the existing car park, public toilets and Fore Street really look? Change is not necessarily always a bad thing. Moving away from the entrenched and narrow minded position preferred by the likes of Pyeth will ensure Brixham has the opportunity to realise its potential to become one of the best towns in Devon.”
by pyeth
Sunday, March 10 2013, 11:04PM
“@tracytopham
if you had read my comments correctly, in particular the last ones, I am not thinking it is all about me and my family at all. In fact I said that I was voicing my own opinions, said what is done is done, did not slate anyone or was rude to them, agreed with some and disagreed with others.
As in all discussions, when someone replied, so did I. I have not lost my temper in doing so.
I have seen Tesco kill off local traders in several small and medium sized towns and I really hope that all independent traders in town can continue to trade but I doubt it.
I and my family care about Brixham with a passion and would hate for anything to spoil it, as would many others who have the same feelings.
As for the town sinking into decline? Torbay Council are doing a pretty good job about that.
There is another issue about parking which I had not brought up before, but those involved with the theatre are well aware (I know several of them and they are all concerned) where will those who wish to attend shows in the evening go to park? The proposed free parking at the new car park (unless it is changed) will be 1.5 hours if you spend £10 in the new store.
There are more than half a dozen tall vehicles that come into and try to park centrally, and when I was ill and unable to drive for a few months, using the local shops and then taxi home I was spending between £100 and £200 a month (yes, really) and no I could not use the bus as the wheelchair could not be accommodated in it and there as often a long queue for it anyway.”
by pyeth
Saturday, March 09 2013, 9:17PM
“how much is affordable housing? just ask anyone who is in rented accommodation and would dearly love their own but can't afford a deposit. I wouldn't be surprised if a high proportion is bought to rent out.
As for "state of the art" disabled facilities? do me a favour! Even in the newly refurbished large Tesco superstore in Newton Abbot they don't. They (and other supermarkets so it's not just a dig at Tesco) do not have adequate changing or toilet facilities. Yes, by law they HAVE to have a disabled toilet, but try taking in a wheelchair plus 2 ESSENTAIL carers for changing, 9 times out of 10 it is virtually impossible because the rooms are too small. People like my daughter who is double incontinent and can't transfer to sit on a toilet because of muscle tone/co-ordination/ strength or a combination of any or all of the 3 are not catered for. There are more like her around than you think, just because they do not wear a badge in bold large letters that say "I AM NOT ABLE TO USE A TOILET OR STAND TO BE CHANGED WITHOUT HELP" does not mean they are not out in the public. Perhaps we ought to go back to the old days where I used to have to lie her on a dirty toilet floor and change her there? Oh, wait, sorry I can't she is not a small child anymore, weighing over 6 stone and is dead weight, and I am in my 60s with permanent back problems due to years of lifting! It takes 2 to change her. 1 to hold her upright and the other to "do the necessary " maybe she and others like her ought to be hidden away in asylums or behind closed doors never seeing beyond their own front doors. I am now just waiting for the day when we can't take her into a café as she can't eat or drink (which will come eventually) unless it is through a tube down her nose or through her stomach and it will make someone feel sick to the stomach to watch!”
by pyeth
Saturday, March 09 2013, 9:02PM
“as for 50% local workers to be used? I won't hold my breath on that one, where we were before Tesco promised exactly the same thing, and guess what? less than 20% were and that was for just the short term of the build and then they were all out of work again. This "dark gloom" of economy is not going to be finished any time soon, or in the next few years.”
by pyeth
Saturday, March 09 2013, 8:58PM
“how much is affordable housing? ask most people who rent, they can't afford property. I would not be surprised if a high percentage will be bought to rent out!”
by pyeth
Saturday, March 09 2013, 8:56PM
“@Treleaven1
I am NOT trying to cry buckets and get sympathy votes for my family's benefit PARKING IS THE ISSUE
as for state of the art disabled facilities? do me a favour, even the BIG Tesco in Newton Abbot does not have adequate changing facilities, like a lot of places they think they do. The changing/toilet facilities are OK for those who can transfer to a toilet, but not for those who can't use a toilet because they do not have the muscle tone/co-ordination to sit on one aided or not, or to stand while being changed. I suppose I could go back to the days of lying her down on a dirty floor, but as she is now heavier than when she was a small child and I am a lot older (in my 60s) I can't bend down and pick someone off the floor who is over 6 stone and total dead weight, and, no she is not one of a few, there are more like her around than you think, they just don't wear a badge in bold letters that state "I CAN'T USE A TOILET AND HAVE TO LIE DOWN TO HAVE MY WET/DIRTY PAD CHANGED"”
by pyeth
Saturday, March 09 2013, 8:50PM
“@spindleshanks.
we moved here for various reasons and of course we came down and got to know the town with it's narrow streets and hills before moving.
1) our daughter's social life. She had none where we lived as all her school friends live in this area. It is almost impossible for those with severe disabilities to make new friends who they did not grow up with
2) accessible theatres, cinemas and other social venues. There was none in the Bristol area apart from 2 new cinemas
3) accessible beaches and other places for her to go to
4) quiet town, friendly people. Our daughter does not cope well in big city crowds so we wanted a place like this
5) Social service facilities are better here for her needs in every way. Bristol Health and social services let her down on too many occasions, almost killing her at her birth and letting her down educationally so enforcing her to go out of area for residential education
6) the house we have we fell in love with (if you can do that to a property) my husband and I looked at various properties in several places, this was the one we felt we could be at home in, had the amount of space needed for her equipment and adaptions could be made to accommodate her needs
We (and up to now still can) park in town, even with the previous eye-sore and concrete cancer riddled multi storey there was ample parking for vehicles over 6 foot. Bristol parking is worse than ever (yes, the centre has been re-done and we can only go up if we want to, by train or park way out of the area and get a wheelchair adapted taxi)”
by pyeth
Saturday, March 09 2013, 8:33PM
“anyway, what is done is done, all I did and continue to do coherently was to air my views. Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. I know this is going to be detrimental to those with high roof vehicles OUT OF NEED not want and yes, parking IS the issue.”