Now free bus passes hits car park cash
TORBAY Council is facing a double whammy of bad bus pass news.
Not only is the number of pensioners taking up the free passes going up — which threatens to raise still further the bill for taxpayers which is already verging on £3million — but fewer drivers are using council car parks, leaving a gaping £350,000 hole in their finances.
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The good news for the council is that income from on street parking enforcement is higher than budgeted.
The council reported that in the first two months of this year's free bus pass scheme, the numbers of over 60s claiming a pass had increased from 27,500 to 29,000. But by the end of July it had jumped again to nearly 31,000.
It had expected 28,500 passes to be issued, out of a total of 38,000 eligible pensioners in Torbay.
During the same period, the number of journeys taken by bus pass-wielding pensioners getting on in Torbay has shot up by 32 per cent, Stagecoach reported. At the same time the number of ticket-paying passengers has dropped 15 per cent.
The bus company has yet to work out how much the bill for Torbay will be. The council has already had to find £3million to fund the scheme this year, and will receive £1million from the Government towards the total cost of £4million. But it seems the fact that fewer pensioners are using their cars, and parking them in car parks, is one reason the overall car parking income is down £350,000 already this year on an overall budget of £4.1million.
Deputy mayor Kevin Carroll said: "It will give us a real headache when budget time comes because the income from car parks helps support several services as well as improvements to car parks.
"We think it is a combination of the bad weather and the increased take up of free bus passes. And, of course, the Government money will not cover the car park losses."
The parking services budget is split in to on-street parking meters, off-street parking and civil enforcement through contractors NCP.
The £350,000 deficit is across all three accounts as follows:
On-street parking was expected to make £350,000 but is currently £145,000 down because the meters were due to be implemented in April, but this was delayed after protests and the issue was called in by opposition councillors. The first meters are due to be installed shortly.
Off-street parking is currently reporting a £290,000 shortfall. It was expected to make £4.1million which takes into account rental (including phone masts), car park ticket sales and seasonal permits.
But the overall budget for on-street parking enforcement, which takes into account income from penalty charge notices, is currently £85,000 above predicted NCP contract figure of £612,000 which brings the overall deficit back down to £350,000.
Cllr Carroll said: "I am sure that our current situation is not exclusive to Torbay and that many other tourist areas across the country are reporting a drop in their parking income. The main pattern that appears to have emerged is the huge increase in the number of people using their concessionary bus passes around the Bay while the number of people using our car parks has decreased. Other contributing factors are the consistent wet weather over the summer and the hike in petrol prices which seems to have deterred people from using their cars."
He said it was too early to say what services could be hit by the loss of income. The council this year also has to pay for visiting pensioners who get on a bus in the resort, no matter how far they travel. The good news is that if Torbay pensioners travel elsewhere, Bay taxpayers no longer have to foot the bill for their return journey.
But Chris Lewis, Cabinet member for transport, said it means that, for example, people travelling to Torbay Hospital from outside the Bay will be paid for by Torbay when they travel home, as well as holidaymakers.
He said: "The scheme is proving very popular, and the take-up is actually heading for 31,000 users. As people can travel on local bus services anywhere in the country, the scheme is more attractive and some Torbay people who didn't apply to replace their pass last year have done so this year.
"We also have to pay for people who come to Torbay and use local buses under the scheme. This situation affects councils up and down the country.
"We have budgeted nearly £4million to cover the scheme costs for this year, including Government funding. While we welcome the scheme as a great benefit, we will continue to press the Government to implement a funding regime that properly allocates funding to those areas with greatest need, such as Torbay."
Richard Stevens, operations manager at Stagecoach Devon, said that because of the reimbursement figure paid by Torbay Council, the company's income would not be affected by the increase in usage by bus pass holders.
They have, however, for a second year appealed against the figures set by the Devonwide scheme.
The bus company is recompensed by a percentage of the average adult fare, taking into account single, return and day tickets.











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by Dave Wavy, cricklewood
Monday, August 25 2008, 2:17PM
“In reply to Mark williams, Taunton "My mum has just applied for her bus pass as she is fed up of paying out parking fees - especially on a sunday when she goes to church. They should be encouraging people to worship not put them off!!"
Why is that then?”
by catherine, Paignton
Sunday, August 24 2008, 6:42PM
“i do not beleive that the free bus passes for oap's and disabled people have caused a problem. Nick bye didn't want them in the first place. perhaps the stupid balloon should have been thought about more instead of spending 30,000 appx for helium alone. in response to one very ignorant person from brixham. the disabled do have to pay for their parking in torbay unless they have applied for a council pass but they have to be a resident. children are disabled to but cannot drive mobility cars and rely on their able bodied carer to do so and require a bigger space to get their child in their wheelchair or use mobility equipment. we park on yellow lines etc and follow the rules we have to for having a blue badge usually because people who think like you park in the small percentage of bays that are provided for disabled badge holders. n.b goodrington sands disabled parking in front of quay west is shut in the summer. the council have not put a pay and display meter in there yet and cannot charge non resident disabled badge holders. we have to spend what little money we get on equipment that NHS won't provide and note that Torbay council do not provide facilities for disabled children. perhaps if non-disabled badge holders were fined(£60) i think for parking where they shouldn't and disabled people could therefore park and pay in the car parks the council would get a greater revenue from this and less disabled would need to park on the roads.”
by Roger davis, Paignton
Friday, August 22 2008, 5:21PM
“Please god someone promise me Nick Bye will be out at the next election. Why OAP's should have free bus passes is beyond me. I am one of the 17% in the UK who pay a class one stamp. Whilst they carry on about it being their right as they have paid their taxes I will go on about my rights as someone who is paying my taxes now.
Medical science sorted out OAP's living longer a while ago, too long. With the advent of statins we will all be living longer than our three score year and ten and the taxes they paid have now all been used up. Us younger lot have to support them in terms of health care, residential care and listen to the sheer disbelief at the hike in the price of a tin of beans. My daughter does not get a free bus pass to go to college. She cannot afford to pay everyday and so has given up college for a dead end job. Giving her a free buys pass would have been productive littering the pavements with coffin dodgers is not!”
by Observer, Deux-Sevres
Friday, August 22 2008, 1:51PM
“"Speak English,England makes a very valid point! Whilst not attempting to deny any persons right to comment, such comment tends to lose credibility when basic errors in construction,spelling and grammar are such that the sense of the comment is lost.
I imagine the majority of comments properly prepared, and perhaps proofed before despatch, are written by "charabanc using pensioners" who were taught English!
Keep riding and writing folks, you've earned the right!”
by But we're the ones to have to pay for it ..., Torquay
Friday, August 22 2008, 10:35AM
“It's clear why the governement gave free bus passes to the over 60s: they're the people who vote, and it's nothing more than a bribe. The rest of us have to pay for it. Sorry, but there was never a guarantee of free travel if you've worked and paid tax all your life: you were guaranteed healthcare and housing: your basic needs. Harsh but true.
In any case, we're now coming upto a time when some 'retired' people will never have done a day's work in their lives.
Some sort of system needs to be introduced: the longer you've worked and therefore contributed, the more you should be entitled to. If you've never worked and never contributed (depending on circumstances, of course), you should receive only the basics.
The sooner we get this stupid government out, the better.”